Reality of Turning

To begin, the message in-short here is:

  • Some believe turning is possible and some don’t.
  • You can’t be turned by being bitten.
  • There are several cases where “turning” could be used to mislabel one’s perception of what’s really happening
  • There may be at least one theory that could be True Turning.

And especially keep in mind here – If turning is something you’re waiting for then you’re likely going to wait a long time and should probably look for a better hobby and not give up on the rest of your life just yet. It is not worth the risk, and while argued to be possible, it is HIGHLY unlikely to be done successfully if at all.

 

 

Turning
Is generally defined as the act of changing one individual into the same thing as the parent or original thing. (I.E. a vampire turns a non-vampire INTO another vampire)

Turning is an incredibly controversial topic.

 

TURNING IN FANTASY
For vampires and werewolves of fantasy and fiction, the most common method of turning is through a bite, for werewolves scratches can also trigger one to turn.

What is it specifically that causes one to turn?

Your answer is as good as mine. Some claim it to be a virus, a venom or poison that causes some sort of infection. This then (as my guess would be) mutates the DNA of the human victim and transforms them into the same species as the “parent” creature.

 

TURNING IN NATURE
In nature, there is no such thing. Many species have venom. Many species also cause infection via bacteria or viruses in their saliva (mosquitos and ticks for examples). Some species, like the Komodo Dragon, rely on both venom and bacteria to kill their prey. These methods are for killing prey for food, not to create more of it’s kind.

Some conditions, carried and caused by animals can cause strange thoughts and behavior which may lead to a conclusion of turning. However; there is no actual change.

Examples for conditions that cause such symptoms are (but are not limted to)

Rabies
is spread by infected saliva that enters the body through a bite or broken skin. The virus travels from the wound to the brain, where it causes swelling, or inflammation.Symptoms may include:

  • Drooling
  • Convulsions
  • Exaggerated sensation at the bite site
  • Excitability
  • Loss of feeling in an area of the body
  • Loss of muscle function
  • Low-grade fever
  • Muscle spasms
  • Numbness and tingling
  • Pain at the site of the bite
  • Restlessness
  • Swallowing difficulty (drinking causes spasms of the voice box)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002310/

Rabies is transmitted through biting, and the dementia and aggression of late-stage rabies can make people behave like wild animals.http://blogs.static.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/36662.html

Mad Cow Disease
symptoms related to the nervous system:

  • Depression
  • Loss of Coordination
  • Dementia

Before the development of modern technology and medicine, the conclusion of turning may have been taken for nearly Any unusual ailment, from infections disease to defects and disorder or any other such disease which may cause a change in physical or mental condition (bleeding from the mouth, disformation of the teeth/gums, changes/deterioration in brain structure and/or function, irrational changes in behavior, etc)

Infectious Disease
After an individual died of disease (Tuberculosis or Flu for example), a relative (who had frequent contact with the deceased while alive) would then develop symptoms of the same disease, and it would be concluded that the previously deceased relative had come back and begun feeding on the sickening individual

Defect or Disorder
Any abnormal appearance of the body might have caused thoughts of turning or possession; birth defects, hypertricosis (excessive body hair), etc.

 

IN CONCLUSION
The point is, there is currently no known animal, substance or organism that can or does change a human’s (or any animal’s) DNA into that of a whole new species, stops the process of aging and causes one to be able to survive off blood alone.

There are a number of cases of animals infecting people either with an ailment intended to kill prey for food or by an involuntary naturally occurring virus or bacteria.

These cases and occurrences in nature are not true turning as it is described in fiction.

 

REAL VAMPIRISM
There are a number of speculations..

Here are some possible explanations for a perceived “turning”:

  • Awakening; It is commonly believed that Real vampires are born, not made. If one is born, not knowing they are vampire, then later awakens to their vampiric nature, this individual could easily come to the conclusion/belief that they were in some way “turned” into a vampire.
    • Awakenings can also be triggered other vampires, and experiences in life. This could lead one into the belief of a sire in the sense of Turning.
  • Psuedo-Vampirism could be considered turning as one who does not identify the need nor as a vampire develops vampiric need after having been drained to the point that their body must take from outside them-self in order to replenish their energy. Pseudo-Vampirism is temporary but can be mis-interpreted as a turning.

 

HOW CAN YOU BE TURNED?
Remember, This is JUST speculation and nothing conclusive.

Some believe turning to be possible when speaking of real vampires following are some theories (speculations and hypotheses):

Damage to energy body
This would only be possible as an energy/soul-related condition (Psychic, maybe Hybrid). This leaves out the possibility of Turning (in this manner) someone into a blood-needing vampire (Sanguinarian).

I believe it would have to involve enough draining of the target to first induce Psuedo-Vampirism and somehow managing to damage the energy body enough so that the system can not naturally return to normal.

This would involve
Extreme draining of the victim (remember, symptoms of severe energy drain are similar to symptoms of severe blood loss), while simultaneously maintaining their energy body and keeping it from collapsing (for want of a better term) and their physical body from dying.

Blood
Some believe that an exchange of blood between vampire and non-vampire or a feeding (from non-vampire, OR from vampire, depending on who you ask) of a large quantity (unspecified) of blood would somehow induce Vampirism.

Some also believe in a sort of trigger found in Sanguinarian blood which may “turn” a non-Vampire if they have certain genetic predisposition for it.

This could involve (more information may be needed)
Something within blood or saliva (carried in bodily fluids) that would induce the need for physical blood (or blood component, whatever you believe). What exactly could do this evades me currently, perhaps some sort of virus or disease which would break down blood or blood components, causing one to feel a need/desire to ingest such to replensish their loss.
Or
A studied and confirmed genetic “switch” triggered by (More information needed)

For more on”Genetic Switches”: http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/genes-turned-off-on.htm | http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/gene-switches.html | https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120411131911.htm

Metaphysical Constructs (more information needed)
Some claim that through the use of Psionic constructs, one can inhibit or altogether change a person’s energy system. In this way, some believe it is possible to create a Vampiric need for energy in an otherwise/previously healthy indivdiual.

THE DANGER & RISK?
IF the aforementioned methods were to be attempted, whether legitimate turning or not…

Energetically
My understanding of the physical and the metaphysical body is that they are closely linked. What effects one, often effects the other. To damage the energy body so much as to cripple it could likely traumatize the physical body.

To what extent?

That can’t be said for sure, but equal and opposite reaction (cripple or kill the heart chakra and related organs will be effected, as an example) makes sense to me, and to say it would also cripple the physical counterparts and in turn further stress, cripple or kill the body seems about right.

Blood
There is no known difference between a Real Vampire’s blood and that of a non-vampire. Real Vampires are human. Exchanging of blood would have no effect in regards to turning.

Drinking large quantities could not only cause the “feeder” to become ill (if one is not used to blood in any quantity especially) to their stomach, but also the loss of blood could make the individual who is donating become ill and at risk of potentially fatal complications.

ANY exchange of bodily fluids (give and/or take) risks serious disease such as (but not limited to) HIV/AIDs, Hepatitis B & C.

 

**This article is NOT to encourage one to attempt turning or look for being turned. This article is strictly here as mix of information and personal speculation based on (minimum) of 7 years listening/reading the experiences, information and thoughts of others to explain the reality of turning. DO NOT start asking to be turned! DO NOT use this article outside of it’s intended purpose as described.**

 

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VampirIC Otherkin

Vampiric Otherkin

September 19, 2011 at 12:31pm

by Amelia Nightside

 

 

An attempt at explaining/understanding those who claim they are NOT vampires, yet have a need to take/exhchange energy. (energy density?)

I had a friend once who tried to explain that he identfied as otherkin (Daimon; sp?), and needed energy, but was not a vampire.

How could this be, considering my understanding at the time, was that vampires need to take in energy. well, apparently while many vampires need to take in energy, not all who need to take in energy are vampires.

His explanation was a little difficult for me to understand, but i think i had it at the time, and has been even harder to explain to others..

well, after tossing it around in my head, i think i’ve come up with something..

Many otherkin claim to be creatures that may not have ever existed in this plane (the physical or whatever you want to call it). So their kin-type’s “home”/natural environment isn’t like this one.

One way i’ve found to look at it, Water and air (or just water, like the ocean, but i’ll get to that).

Keep in mind that we (living creatures) ALL need energy, but it’s vampires (and others apparently) who need to actively take in energy (or engage in an energy exchange), just as we all, also need oxygen.

Also understand that this is under the conditions that the individual claiming to need energy, but not to be a vampire, is also NOT undergoing pseudo/temporary-vampirism (being drained to the point that they’re metaphysical body expresses vampiric traits/needs in order to return to it’s healthy state).

Water is denser than air, it also contains oxygen, but as a human being (or any sort of creature) who can only get oxygen through air, you can not expect to go into the more dense water, and be able to breathe properly (water [H2O] IS like half oxygen isn’t it?). and on the flip side, a fish, who lives in the more dense water, can’t be expected to survive if brought into the less dense air (though there is oxygen in air).

Water and air are both fluid, like energy. both contain oxygen, and sometimes both contain each other (water has bubbles, but moreso air can contain water in the form of vapor, anyway-).

On the other hand, think of the depths of the ocean, the further down you go (the darker it gets), the denser it gets, though there’s more oxygen {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_minimum_zone}.

Creatures who live on the bottom of the ocean can not live so well up near the surface or out in the air as well as they do down below and creatures who live up above, or at the surface, would be crushed and suffocate due to the density of the water/oxygen molecules in the deeper levels.

Those who need to take in/exchange energy (due to environment), but don’t naturally need to, are not like vampires, they’re more like fish, or those who might live in denser areas of our energetic ‘ocean’ . each section of ocean is like a separate “plane” of existence.

Those who come from a more energy-rich environment are more used to the higher amounts of energy that they need (the energy/astral/metaphysical plane is COMPLETELY made of such energy, as opposed to the plane we live in here/now, which is more physical than energetic, though there is still energy everywhere).

Because of where they come from, and what their -bodies- [may] need, they are forced to take in more here in order to live comfortably. when naturally, they don’t have to..

Psi, Psy, Pranic, or Energy?

Psi = Psionic

  • Psionics refers to the practice, study, or psychic ability of using the mind to induce paranormal phenomena. Examples of this include telepathy, telekinesis, and other workings of the outside world through the psyche. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psionics
  • – Psionics sounds like an active ability. Such as, When manipulating energy, you are practicing psionics.

Psy = Psychic

  • “of the mind, mental” some times spelled phycics) is a person who possesses an ability to perceive information hidden from the normal senses through extra-sensory perception (ESP), or who is said by others to have such abilities. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic
  • – Psychic just sounds like a perception; like a sixth sense. This seems more passive than Psionics, imo. Like it’s automatic.

Energy

  • Mental or psychic energy[clarification needed] or activity is the concept[who?] of a principle of activity powering the operation of the mind or psyche. Many modern psychologists or neuroscientists would equate it with increased metabolism in neurons of the brain. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_(psychological)
  • EnergyIn physics, the basic idea of energy is the capacity of a physical system to do “work,” the product of a force times the distance through which that force acts. – http://www.skepdic.com/energy.html
  •  Qì (also chi or ch’i) is an active principle forming part of any living thing. Qi is frequently translated as _life energy_, _lifeforce_, or energy flow. Qi is the central underlying principle in traditional Chinese medicine and martial arts. The literal translation of “qi” is _breath, air, or gas_.
  • Prana In Vedantic philosophy, prana is the notion of a vital, life-sustaining force of living beings and vital energy, comparable to the Chinese notion of Qi.

Vampire

  • A preternatural predatory creature in apparent human form that thrives off of the resources of others in a way that weakens or kills them. – The Science of Vampires, by Kathrine Ramsland
  • A human who, along with other normal human needs, requires to take the Blood and/or Life Force Energy from others, other living things or outside themself in order to maintain a comfortable and smooth-functioning state of being (physiological, psychological and physical health as some claims go).

So, while I prefer it, “psychic” doesn’t seem to work. Sure, vampires might be more perceptive of the world, physically and subtly around them, like in being able to perceive the energy they feed on, but vampires do more than perceive it, they need it. They must actively take it.

So, “psionic” then? Sounds to me to be close. Though is feeding really a “paranormal” phenomena?

“Energy” and “Prana” appear to be about the same thing.

– From what I gather, Psi/Psionic or Energy/Pranic Vampire seems about right, or as close as I can figure for now, as a description/title/label.

This quick little write-up was something I thought of just a couple of minutes ago. Of course, I can’t dictate what words someone does or does not use, and no worries I won’t try to.  I personally have been using “Psy” for years and have been watching many (at least recently) using “Psi”. – Never really bothered me, nor does it now I just, today, decided to as “Why”?

Well whether these considerations have ever been shared or not, I’ve sought to answer my own question and hopefully provide a suggestion to consider if/when individuals and/or groups within the community attempt for any sort of unification, at least in terminology.