Blood Vs. Energy: an insight to diversity of beliefs and avoiding prejudice regarding Identity.

I’d like to share a true story, or at least attempt to. This story is about opposing beliefs, or diversity.

When I found my first organized group/forum and began *awakening* into the subject of Real/Living Vampires, I had no idea what to believe, I had very little real understanding, and a lot of doubt but I was full of curiosity and a desire to learn.

Now, among the subculture/identity group/online community that gathers under the umbrella of “vampire”, there’s been a long time debate (even self described “wars”) regarding what makes a vampire legitimate and which variety of vampires are The True ones. Is it energy/metaphysical? Is it blood/physical? Is it both or neither?

The particular group I gained my first basis of knowledge from taught the belief that it was all energy that vampires needed. That it was a condition of the soul (damage, deficiency, defect or something else). That even blood-feeding vampires (who were called “Sanguinarians”) only fed on blood by choice or lack of metaphysical knowledge/psionic practice (and respectively those who fed on both, did so out of preference), and that ultimately their need was for the energy within.

Due to a lot of drama, and bad press surrounding Vampires at the time, the little group I was with disclaimed any connection or affiliation with the greater Community (though, I later learned that at least 3 of the most active admins were elders or otherwise popular/recognized names of the Community). Sometime between the ages of 16 and 19, when I felt comfortable and confident in my knowledge base, regardless of my own identity, I decided to branch out. To seek out the Greater Community and see what information, experiences and further answers they might have, that maybe I didn’t expect.

I came across a well-recognized group – The Vampire Community Message Board. I didn’t assume or present myself like I knew everything, but did come across some information that contradicted what I thought I knew. There were claims, arguments even, that for some , it isn’t ever energy. That some felt, or believed, they had a very real, very physical need for blood. I questioned them, countered with the truth that I had previously been taught, was surprised that what was truth to me, nearly considered fact in my old forum, was not also truth to everyone.

I could have stuck to my guns, I could have refused to bend, to deny their claims as reality. I could have followed in the footsteps of those before me, saying that blood-*needers* were simply mentally ill, weak willed, metaphysically inept. I didn’t. Instead, I returned to my familial forum and presented them with the ideas, beliefs and information I’d gained. I asked them, what their thoughts were.

I suppose a part of me wanted some sort of support, explanations and ideas on how to explain to this new[-to-me] forum, that they were wrong. Instead, I was given explanation that different people believe different things.

Eventually, these blood-needers, over a few years time, branched out from the Greater Community. They no longer call themselves Vampires (most of them anyway), they instead call themselves Medical Sanguinarians, Medical Sanguivores or just Sanguivores. While they recognize their claims, of physical need to be a belief, or even a hypothesis. They don’t have proof. Anecdotal evidence. They have  (usually unpleasant) symptoms, they have experience of blood alleviating these symptoms. They began a movement, a community of their own. Not for validation from their peers. Not for back-scratching or ego boosting. Not to rally against the energy-needers and feeders, but because they made claims of physical reality.

Their experiences, and beliefs. Are testable, and that is their goal. They, with help from professionals (some of them scientists and doctors themselves) to test, confirm, and perhaps one day treat, what they believe to be a physical, and Absolute Truth and they continue to progress to this day.

What have I learned? A few things, most importantly I’ve learned:

  • Even if you disagree or even outright disbelieve someone else’s claims, it’s important to understand and be able to accept that people are different and that your views, your beliefs are not going to be shared by everyone.
  • Diversity is important for personal and community evolution (progress or growth), because what may be considered Absolute Truth (Objective) by a person or single group, may turn out to only be Subjective Truth (Personal).
  • That accepting the existence of others’ beliefs allows the opportunity for growth, change and well-rounded education and the formation of respectable opinions and realistic beliefs, opening the door leading to Absolute Truth..
  • Questioning, Examining and testing Subjective Reality is the path towards knowing Objective Reality.

Also, I’ve learned:
Beliefs are beliefs are opinions. Such things are subjective until they are proven otherwise.

  • We, as the human race, don’t have the technology or know-how to test and prove spiritual, non-physical and metaphysical things yet. Such things remain a part of Subjective Reality, or personal truths. Things that are only true to the individual, and may not be true for everyone. It is important to accept Absolute Reality as it is – Spiritual things, while real to us as individuals, may not be real to everyone. Spiritual experiences are subjective and personal and likely can not be recreated or proven in a way for everyone to experience in the same way.
  • Claims made of genetics, physical need, physical transformation or metamorphosis, claims relating to the physical world/realm – Are beliefs, are personal truths, unless they are proven otherwise. Being physical allows for the ability to record, test and observe. Claims of the physical world have the amazing chance at being proven, and therefore graduating from Subjective/Personal truths to Objective/Absolute Truth.
  • If you believe something of yourself, your body, or your “kind” that relates to the physical world, you should be eager to test it, prove it. You should NEVER expect, nor tell, others to believe your personal beliefs apply to them. This can be dangerous physically, mentally and/or spiritually, and potentially deadly.
    – – Examples:
    – – – Claims that you can breathe underwater or fly, then explaining your technique to someone as if they should be able to do it too, if they do exactly as you say.
    – – – Claims that you are turned or can turn someone and explaining how to make that happen..
    – – – Claims related to your bodily organs saying that such is a sign or absolute trait of an entire species or entity
    – – – Claims that you can grow physical limbs, then proceeding to claim others can too.
    – – – It is irresponsible and disgraceful to put your personal truth on anyone else before it’s safely tested and proven as Absolute Fact.

Expecting people to believe your personal claims as Absolute Fact without evidence, proof or explanation is expecting people to not think for themselves, to be gullible. Claiming personal truths as Absolute Fact is not healthy, nor is it healthy for others to blindly follow and agree with you.

Consensus and Common Agreement are not the same as Absolute Fact. *Many people believing something, doesn’t make it true* However, History with references can be Absolute Fact and can not be changed.

VampirIC Otherkin

Vampiric Otherkin

September 19, 2011 at 12:31pm

by Amelia Nightside

 

 

An attempt at explaining/understanding those who claim they are NOT vampires, yet have a need to take/exhchange energy. (energy density?)

I had a friend once who tried to explain that he identfied as otherkin (Daimon; sp?), and needed energy, but was not a vampire.

How could this be, considering my understanding at the time, was that vampires need to take in energy. well, apparently while many vampires need to take in energy, not all who need to take in energy are vampires.

His explanation was a little difficult for me to understand, but i think i had it at the time, and has been even harder to explain to others..

well, after tossing it around in my head, i think i’ve come up with something..

Many otherkin claim to be creatures that may not have ever existed in this plane (the physical or whatever you want to call it). So their kin-type’s “home”/natural environment isn’t like this one.

One way i’ve found to look at it, Water and air (or just water, like the ocean, but i’ll get to that).

Keep in mind that we (living creatures) ALL need energy, but it’s vampires (and others apparently) who need to actively take in energy (or engage in an energy exchange), just as we all, also need oxygen.

Also understand that this is under the conditions that the individual claiming to need energy, but not to be a vampire, is also NOT undergoing pseudo/temporary-vampirism (being drained to the point that they’re metaphysical body expresses vampiric traits/needs in order to return to it’s healthy state).

Water is denser than air, it also contains oxygen, but as a human being (or any sort of creature) who can only get oxygen through air, you can not expect to go into the more dense water, and be able to breathe properly (water [H2O] IS like half oxygen isn’t it?). and on the flip side, a fish, who lives in the more dense water, can’t be expected to survive if brought into the less dense air (though there is oxygen in air).

Water and air are both fluid, like energy. both contain oxygen, and sometimes both contain each other (water has bubbles, but moreso air can contain water in the form of vapor, anyway-).

On the other hand, think of the depths of the ocean, the further down you go (the darker it gets), the denser it gets, though there’s more oxygen {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_minimum_zone}.

Creatures who live on the bottom of the ocean can not live so well up near the surface or out in the air as well as they do down below and creatures who live up above, or at the surface, would be crushed and suffocate due to the density of the water/oxygen molecules in the deeper levels.

Those who need to take in/exchange energy (due to environment), but don’t naturally need to, are not like vampires, they’re more like fish, or those who might live in denser areas of our energetic ‘ocean’ . each section of ocean is like a separate “plane” of existence.

Those who come from a more energy-rich environment are more used to the higher amounts of energy that they need (the energy/astral/metaphysical plane is COMPLETELY made of such energy, as opposed to the plane we live in here/now, which is more physical than energetic, though there is still energy everywhere).

Because of where they come from, and what their -bodies- [may] need, they are forced to take in more here in order to live comfortably. when naturally, they don’t have to..

Psi, Psy, Pranic, or Energy?

Psi = Psionic

  • Psionics refers to the practice, study, or psychic ability of using the mind to induce paranormal phenomena. Examples of this include telepathy, telekinesis, and other workings of the outside world through the psyche. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psionics
  • – Psionics sounds like an active ability. Such as, When manipulating energy, you are practicing psionics.

Psy = Psychic

  • “of the mind, mental” some times spelled phycics) is a person who possesses an ability to perceive information hidden from the normal senses through extra-sensory perception (ESP), or who is said by others to have such abilities. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic
  • – Psychic just sounds like a perception; like a sixth sense. This seems more passive than Psionics, imo. Like it’s automatic.

Energy

  • Mental or psychic energy[clarification needed] or activity is the concept[who?] of a principle of activity powering the operation of the mind or psyche. Many modern psychologists or neuroscientists would equate it with increased metabolism in neurons of the brain. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_(psychological)
  • EnergyIn physics, the basic idea of energy is the capacity of a physical system to do “work,” the product of a force times the distance through which that force acts. – http://www.skepdic.com/energy.html
  •  Qì (also chi or ch’i) is an active principle forming part of any living thing. Qi is frequently translated as _life energy_, _lifeforce_, or energy flow. Qi is the central underlying principle in traditional Chinese medicine and martial arts. The literal translation of “qi” is _breath, air, or gas_.
  • Prana In Vedantic philosophy, prana is the notion of a vital, life-sustaining force of living beings and vital energy, comparable to the Chinese notion of Qi.

Vampire

  • A preternatural predatory creature in apparent human form that thrives off of the resources of others in a way that weakens or kills them. – The Science of Vampires, by Kathrine Ramsland
  • A human who, along with other normal human needs, requires to take the Blood and/or Life Force Energy from others, other living things or outside themself in order to maintain a comfortable and smooth-functioning state of being (physiological, psychological and physical health as some claims go).

So, while I prefer it, “psychic” doesn’t seem to work. Sure, vampires might be more perceptive of the world, physically and subtly around them, like in being able to perceive the energy they feed on, but vampires do more than perceive it, they need it. They must actively take it.

So, “psionic” then? Sounds to me to be close. Though is feeding really a “paranormal” phenomena?

“Energy” and “Prana” appear to be about the same thing.

– From what I gather, Psi/Psionic or Energy/Pranic Vampire seems about right, or as close as I can figure for now, as a description/title/label.

This quick little write-up was something I thought of just a couple of minutes ago. Of course, I can’t dictate what words someone does or does not use, and no worries I won’t try to.  I personally have been using “Psy” for years and have been watching many (at least recently) using “Psi”. – Never really bothered me, nor does it now I just, today, decided to as “Why”?

Well whether these considerations have ever been shared or not, I’ve sought to answer my own question and hopefully provide a suggestion to consider if/when individuals and/or groups within the community attempt for any sort of unification, at least in terminology.