Blood Vs. Energy: an insight to diversity of beliefs and avoiding prejudice regarding Identity.

I’d like to share a true story, or at least attempt to. This story is about opposing beliefs, or diversity.

When I found my first organized group/forum and began *awakening* into the subject of Real/Living Vampires, I had no idea what to believe, I had very little real understanding, and a lot of doubt but I was full of curiosity and a desire to learn.

Now, among the subculture/identity group/online community that gathers under the umbrella of “vampire”, there’s been a long time debate (even self described “wars”) regarding what makes a vampire legitimate and which variety of vampires are The True ones. Is it energy/metaphysical? Is it blood/physical? Is it both or neither?

The particular group I gained my first basis of knowledge from taught the belief that it was all energy that vampires needed. That it was a condition of the soul (damage, deficiency, defect or something else). That even blood-feeding vampires (who were called “Sanguinarians”) only fed on blood by choice or lack of metaphysical knowledge/psionic practice (and respectively those who fed on both, did so out of preference), and that ultimately their need was for the energy within.

Due to a lot of drama, and bad press surrounding Vampires at the time, the little group I was with disclaimed any connection or affiliation with the greater Community (though, I later learned that at least 3 of the most active admins were elders or otherwise popular/recognized names of the Community). Sometime between the ages of 16 and 19, when I felt comfortable and confident in my knowledge base, regardless of my own identity, I decided to branch out. To seek out the Greater Community and see what information, experiences and further answers they might have, that maybe I didn’t expect.

I came across a well-recognized group – The Vampire Community Message Board. I didn’t assume or present myself like I knew everything, but did come across some information that contradicted what I thought I knew. There were claims, arguments even, that for some , it isn’t ever energy. That some felt, or believed, they had a very real, very physical need for blood. I questioned them, countered with the truth that I had previously been taught, was surprised that what was truth to me, nearly considered fact in my old forum, was not also truth to everyone.

I could have stuck to my guns, I could have refused to bend, to deny their claims as reality. I could have followed in the footsteps of those before me, saying that blood-*needers* were simply mentally ill, weak willed, metaphysically inept. I didn’t. Instead, I returned to my familial forum and presented them with the ideas, beliefs and information I’d gained. I asked them, what their thoughts were.

I suppose a part of me wanted some sort of support, explanations and ideas on how to explain to this new[-to-me] forum, that they were wrong. Instead, I was given explanation that different people believe different things.

Eventually, these blood-needers, over a few years time, branched out from the Greater Community. They no longer call themselves Vampires (most of them anyway), they instead call themselves Medical Sanguinarians, Medical Sanguivores or just Sanguivores. While they recognize their claims, of physical need to be a belief, or even a hypothesis. They don’t have proof. Anecdotal evidence. They have  (usually unpleasant) symptoms, they have experience of blood alleviating these symptoms. They began a movement, a community of their own. Not for validation from their peers. Not for back-scratching or ego boosting. Not to rally against the energy-needers and feeders, but because they made claims of physical reality.

Their experiences, and beliefs. Are testable, and that is their goal. They, with help from professionals (some of them scientists and doctors themselves) to test, confirm, and perhaps one day treat, what they believe to be a physical, and Absolute Truth and they continue to progress to this day.

What have I learned? A few things, most importantly I’ve learned:

  • Even if you disagree or even outright disbelieve someone else’s claims, it’s important to understand and be able to accept that people are different and that your views, your beliefs are not going to be shared by everyone.
  • Diversity is important for personal and community evolution (progress or growth), because what may be considered Absolute Truth (Objective) by a person or single group, may turn out to only be Subjective Truth (Personal).
  • That accepting the existence of others’ beliefs allows the opportunity for growth, change and well-rounded education and the formation of respectable opinions and realistic beliefs, opening the door leading to Absolute Truth..
  • Questioning, Examining and testing Subjective Reality is the path towards knowing Objective Reality.

Also, I’ve learned:
Beliefs are beliefs are opinions. Such things are subjective until they are proven otherwise.

  • We, as the human race, don’t have the technology or know-how to test and prove spiritual, non-physical and metaphysical things yet. Such things remain a part of Subjective Reality, or personal truths. Things that are only true to the individual, and may not be true for everyone. It is important to accept Absolute Reality as it is – Spiritual things, while real to us as individuals, may not be real to everyone. Spiritual experiences are subjective and personal and likely can not be recreated or proven in a way for everyone to experience in the same way.
  • Claims made of genetics, physical need, physical transformation or metamorphosis, claims relating to the physical world/realm – Are beliefs, are personal truths, unless they are proven otherwise. Being physical allows for the ability to record, test and observe. Claims of the physical world have the amazing chance at being proven, and therefore graduating from Subjective/Personal truths to Objective/Absolute Truth.
  • If you believe something of yourself, your body, or your “kind” that relates to the physical world, you should be eager to test it, prove it. You should NEVER expect, nor tell, others to believe your personal beliefs apply to them. This can be dangerous physically, mentally and/or spiritually, and potentially deadly.
    – – Examples:
    – – – Claims that you can breathe underwater or fly, then explaining your technique to someone as if they should be able to do it too, if they do exactly as you say.
    – – – Claims that you are turned or can turn someone and explaining how to make that happen..
    – – – Claims related to your bodily organs saying that such is a sign or absolute trait of an entire species or entity
    – – – Claims that you can grow physical limbs, then proceeding to claim others can too.
    – – – It is irresponsible and disgraceful to put your personal truth on anyone else before it’s safely tested and proven as Absolute Fact.

Expecting people to believe your personal claims as Absolute Fact without evidence, proof or explanation is expecting people to not think for themselves, to be gullible. Claiming personal truths as Absolute Fact is not healthy, nor is it healthy for others to blindly follow and agree with you.

Consensus and Common Agreement are not the same as Absolute Fact. *Many people believing something, doesn’t make it true* However, History with references can be Absolute Fact and can not be changed.

Very Real Risks to Blood-Drinking

Risks from Human blood consumption
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BLOODBORNE INFECTIOUS DISEASES: HIV/AIDS,HEPATITIS B, HEPATITIS C

– Exposures to blood and other body fluids occur across a wide variety of occupations. Health care workers, emergency response and public safety personnel, and other workers can be exposed to blood through needlestick and other sharps injuries, mucous membrane, and skin exposures. The pathogens of primary concern are the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), hepatitis B virus (HBV), and hepatitis C virus (HCV). Workers and employers are urged to take advantage of available engineering controls and work practices to prevent exposure to blood and other body fluids. – http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/bbp/

List of Bloodborne Pathogens

Bloodborne illnesses are caused by microscopic pathogens. –

Bloodborne pathogens cause diseases through contact with blood. Since these diseases are present in an infected persons’ blood they are often present in other bodily fluids, so direct contact with blood is not always the only way to transmit them. Some bloodborne pathogens pose few significant health threats and some are potentially fatal, often by leading to other illnesses. The Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) offers extensive information about these pathogens.

– Read more: List of Bloodborne Pathogens | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6822351_list-bloodborne-pathogens.html#ixzz1r6vFNEtT

  • Hepatitis B – Hepatitis B attacks the liver. It can cause fatal liver conditions like cirrhosis, liver cancer and liver failure. The CDC estimates that 3,000 people die each year from Hepatitis B related illness in the United States. Hepatitis B is commonly transmitted among drug users through shared needles and can be transmitted through any blood contact that involves a puncture of the skin or mucosal contact with other infectious body fluids.
  • Hepatitis C – The CDC lists Hepatitis C as the most common chronic bloodborne infection in the United States. Hepatitis C is transmitted most efficiently through direct blood contact involving a skin puncture. Transmission through sex or contact with other bodily fluids is possible but uncommon. As with Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C can result in chronic, fatal liver diseases. The CDC estimates that four times as many people die from Hepatitis C related illnesses than from Hepatitis B.
  • HIV – Human immunodeficiency virus causes AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome). AIDS weakens the immune system making it difficult for infected persons to resister other illnesses. AIDS is a late stage of the HIV viral infection and HIV medications can stave off the onset of AIDS for years or even decades. HIV is transmitted through unprotected sexual activity but can also be contracted through direct blood contact though skin punctures or to mucus membranes. The CDC recorded over 14,000 HIV related deaths in 2007.
  • Viral Hemorrhagic Fever – Viral Hemorrhagic Fever (VHF) refers to a group of illnesses that affect multiple organ systems. Bleeding, or hemorrhaging can be a major symptom of these diseases. The CDC has a Special Pathogens Branch that deals with the most sever VHFs. Insects and rodents are known hosts of VHFs but the hosts of some VHFs are unknown. Ebola and Marburg are two of the most well-known and dangerous VHFs. CDC records of Ebola and Marburg outbreaks indicate that the viruses most commonly occur in a few African countries and are often fatal. VHFs can be transmitted through blood and other bodily fluids but the fluids do not have to enter the skin through a puncture to cause infection.

Animal Blood – Safety of Pig vs. Cow blood (contributed by Orb)

Though the possibility of becoming ill from Pork blood is small, why risk it at all? It has nothing to do with pathogens, but instead with parasites. Trichinosis is a gastrointestinal illness caused by the intestinal roundworm, Trichinella spiralis. Trichinosis is prevented by cooking all pork and pork products at a temperature and for a sufficient amount of time to allow all parts to reach 71° C.

The eggs of this parasite can be found in a certain percentage of all pigs raised for dietary uses … which is why everyone always tells you to be certain to cook pork thoroughly before eating. It can also be found in the blood of the animal. Unfortunately, heating the blood to the suggested 71° C essentially destroys it, as far as it being “fresh” any longer, though you can make a nice blood pudding from it (I hear, I don’t do cooked blood).

In the infective stages, trichinosis causes intestinal ailments, nausea, vomiting, and watery stools. Later symptoms are facial swelling, headache, and delirium. Some people recovering from trichinosis suffer permanent heart or eye damage, and about 5 percent of cases are fatal. Trichinosis may be successfully treated with drugs before the blood migration phase (which is when the parasite eggs enter the blood stream of the host before attaching themselves to muscle fibers and forming cysts), but it is difficult to diagnose in the early stages. This disease is difficult to see in dietary pigs, and therefore a good deal of pork is sold that is infected. If you buy blood from a butcher, your chances of getting infected blood are higher, as it does not come from a major plant with FDA inspectors on site. The inspection system for small butcher shops is significantly different from that of major plants (more lax). Therefore, anytime you purchase ANY meat or blood product from a butcher you take a risk of some sort. Good reason to know your butcher well.

Beef blood is significantly safer as there are very few diseases or parasites that can be exchanged between humans and cows (mad cow disease being the only one I know of really – it being of little consequence here in the US).

Besides, I happen to like the taste of beef blood better than pig anyway.

http://www.drinkdeeplyanddream.com/realvampire/animal-blood.html

Other Risks of Blood-drinking

Besides the obvious (I hope) risk of becoming infected with a Blood-Borne Disease there are other risks involved, both mental and physical, to your and your donor that you definitely should be aware of. Those wishing to be “turned” especially should take note of these two pages.

To get the blood you need there are pretty much only three ways to do so: Cut another human being (donor), via menstruated blood, or via blood from a slaughter house. And the physical risks vary with each as well.

The common factor being there is no way to procure and drink blood that is completely risk-free. What goes for sex applies here to, the only true safety is to abstain. But, that aside, what are the risks behind each one?

Warning! The information below is not pretty nor glamorous, and I would not recommend eating anything while reading. It is, however, the truth which you as drinker, donor, or interested party should very much be aware of.

Click to read more: http://sarasvati.sanguinarius.org/oblbrsk.htm

Risks of blood-consumption and of blood-letting:

– Scarring

– Infection

– Blood loss

– HIV (AIDs)

– Hepatitis B & C

– VHF

– Salmonella or E. Coli (infected/undercooked meat and blood)

– trichinosis

– Brucellosis

– and many more..

 

A friend of mine years ago, “SpikeJonez” left me with this lovely little tale:

..then there were these other fellers. These guys come into the store, one of them kinda barrel-shaped and ruddy, wearing a Confederate flag t-shirt, boots, jacket and cowboy hat, the other being a beetle-like skinny guy with a pockmarked and skeletal face wearing a black trenchcoat and some metal t-shirt and jeans.

They come in and I roll out the patter of all of the things we have in the store, and when I get to “knives” they both practically leapt at the knife counter. I then proceed to demonstrate the various knives, and I’m noticing that they both have a peculiar tic, sort of weaving their heads occasionally and jerking it back into place.

They also had strange movements in other parts of their bodies, which I came to notice, too. I was used to seeing drunks and tweekers come in here and knew what their various drug-induced convulsions looked like, and this wasn’t it. Yet it looked kinda familiar, and I struggled to place it.

As the conversation goes on, I begin to suss out that these fellas think they are vampires, and they keep making thinly-veiled allusions to murdering people.

Now, New Orleans is swamp country, and there’s no better place to dispose of a body than in a gator-filled swamp, so I’d met my fair share of murderers down there. You can just tell the type of guy who could kill without compunction. I could tell that these guys were the type who could never kill a man, but I could also tell that they were the type to kill something.

Soon enough, the conversation moved on to blood, and at this point I just join in, unlike my usual quiet smiles when faced with such conversations. I mentioned that good blood is hard to find. The big guy looks over to the little guy and says “Not if you know where to find it,” and grinned a jack-o’-lantern grin, to which his cohort responded by oinking.

That’s when I realized what the deal was with the twitching. These guys had trichinosis. Yep, little worms were happily burrowing around in their brains driving them slowly insane, all because they drank infected pig’s blood. Hell, for all I know they got it from a rare porkchop at some backwoods roadside barbecue, but I like to think that it was their unsafe feeding habits that got them in the end. Remember kiddies, think before you drink!

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