Reality of Turning

To begin, the message in-short here is:

  • Some believe turning is possible and some don’t.
  • You can’t be turned by being bitten.
  • There are several cases where “turning” could be used to mislabel one’s perception of what’s really happening
  • There may be at least one theory that could be True Turning.

And especially keep in mind here – If turning is something you’re waiting for then you’re likely going to wait a long time and should probably look for a better hobby and not give up on the rest of your life just yet. It is not worth the risk, and while argued to be possible, it is HIGHLY unlikely to be done successfully if at all.

 

 

Turning
Is generally defined as the act of changing one individual into the same thing as the parent or original thing. (I.E. a vampire turns a non-vampire INTO another vampire)

Turning is an incredibly controversial topic.

 

TURNING IN FANTASY
For vampires and werewolves of fantasy and fiction, the most common method of turning is through a bite, for werewolves scratches can also trigger one to turn.

What is it specifically that causes one to turn?

Your answer is as good as mine. Some claim it to be a virus, a venom or poison that causes some sort of infection. This then (as my guess would be) mutates the DNA of the human victim and transforms them into the same species as the “parent” creature.

 

TURNING IN NATURE
In nature, there is no such thing. Many species have venom. Many species also cause infection via bacteria or viruses in their saliva (mosquitos and ticks for examples). Some species, like the Komodo Dragon, rely on both venom and bacteria to kill their prey. These methods are for killing prey for food, not to create more of it’s kind.

Some conditions, carried and caused by animals can cause strange thoughts and behavior which may lead to a conclusion of turning. However; there is no actual change.

Examples for conditions that cause such symptoms are (but are not limted to)

Rabies
is spread by infected saliva that enters the body through a bite or broken skin. The virus travels from the wound to the brain, where it causes swelling, or inflammation.Symptoms may include:

  • Drooling
  • Convulsions
  • Exaggerated sensation at the bite site
  • Excitability
  • Loss of feeling in an area of the body
  • Loss of muscle function
  • Low-grade fever
  • Muscle spasms
  • Numbness and tingling
  • Pain at the site of the bite
  • Restlessness
  • Swallowing difficulty (drinking causes spasms of the voice box)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002310/

Rabies is transmitted through biting, and the dementia and aggression of late-stage rabies can make people behave like wild animals.http://blogs.static.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/36662.html

Mad Cow Disease
symptoms related to the nervous system:

  • Depression
  • Loss of Coordination
  • Dementia

Before the development of modern technology and medicine, the conclusion of turning may have been taken for nearly Any unusual ailment, from infections disease to defects and disorder or any other such disease which may cause a change in physical or mental condition (bleeding from the mouth, disformation of the teeth/gums, changes/deterioration in brain structure and/or function, irrational changes in behavior, etc)

Infectious Disease
After an individual died of disease (Tuberculosis or Flu for example), a relative (who had frequent contact with the deceased while alive) would then develop symptoms of the same disease, and it would be concluded that the previously deceased relative had come back and begun feeding on the sickening individual

Defect or Disorder
Any abnormal appearance of the body might have caused thoughts of turning or possession; birth defects, hypertricosis (excessive body hair), etc.

 

IN CONCLUSION
The point is, there is currently no known animal, substance or organism that can or does change a human’s (or any animal’s) DNA into that of a whole new species, stops the process of aging and causes one to be able to survive off blood alone.

There are a number of cases of animals infecting people either with an ailment intended to kill prey for food or by an involuntary naturally occurring virus or bacteria.

These cases and occurrences in nature are not true turning as it is described in fiction.

 

REAL VAMPIRISM
There are a number of speculations..

Here are some possible explanations for a perceived “turning”:

  • Awakening; It is commonly believed that Real vampires are born, not made. If one is born, not knowing they are vampire, then later awakens to their vampiric nature, this individual could easily come to the conclusion/belief that they were in some way “turned” into a vampire.
    • Awakenings can also be triggered other vampires, and experiences in life. This could lead one into the belief of a sire in the sense of Turning.
  • Psuedo-Vampirism could be considered turning as one who does not identify the need nor as a vampire develops vampiric need after having been drained to the point that their body must take from outside them-self in order to replenish their energy. Pseudo-Vampirism is temporary but can be mis-interpreted as a turning.

 

HOW CAN YOU BE TURNED?
Remember, This is JUST speculation and nothing conclusive.

Some believe turning to be possible when speaking of real vampires following are some theories (speculations and hypotheses):

Damage to energy body
This would only be possible as an energy/soul-related condition (Psychic, maybe Hybrid). This leaves out the possibility of Turning (in this manner) someone into a blood-needing vampire (Sanguinarian).

I believe it would have to involve enough draining of the target to first induce Psuedo-Vampirism and somehow managing to damage the energy body enough so that the system can not naturally return to normal.

This would involve
Extreme draining of the victim (remember, symptoms of severe energy drain are similar to symptoms of severe blood loss), while simultaneously maintaining their energy body and keeping it from collapsing (for want of a better term) and their physical body from dying.

Blood
Some believe that an exchange of blood between vampire and non-vampire or a feeding (from non-vampire, OR from vampire, depending on who you ask) of a large quantity (unspecified) of blood would somehow induce Vampirism.

Some also believe in a sort of trigger found in Sanguinarian blood which may “turn” a non-Vampire if they have certain genetic predisposition for it.

This could involve (more information may be needed)
Something within blood or saliva (carried in bodily fluids) that would induce the need for physical blood (or blood component, whatever you believe). What exactly could do this evades me currently, perhaps some sort of virus or disease which would break down blood or blood components, causing one to feel a need/desire to ingest such to replensish their loss.
Or
A studied and confirmed genetic “switch” triggered by (More information needed)

For more on”Genetic Switches”: http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/genes-turned-off-on.htm | http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/gene-switches.html | https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120411131911.htm

Metaphysical Constructs (more information needed)
Some claim that through the use of Psionic constructs, one can inhibit or altogether change a person’s energy system. In this way, some believe it is possible to create a Vampiric need for energy in an otherwise/previously healthy indivdiual.

THE DANGER & RISK?
IF the aforementioned methods were to be attempted, whether legitimate turning or not…

Energetically
My understanding of the physical and the metaphysical body is that they are closely linked. What effects one, often effects the other. To damage the energy body so much as to cripple it could likely traumatize the physical body.

To what extent?

That can’t be said for sure, but equal and opposite reaction (cripple or kill the heart chakra and related organs will be effected, as an example) makes sense to me, and to say it would also cripple the physical counterparts and in turn further stress, cripple or kill the body seems about right.

Blood
There is no known difference between a Real Vampire’s blood and that of a non-vampire. Real Vampires are human. Exchanging of blood would have no effect in regards to turning.

Drinking large quantities could not only cause the “feeder” to become ill (if one is not used to blood in any quantity especially) to their stomach, but also the loss of blood could make the individual who is donating become ill and at risk of potentially fatal complications.

ANY exchange of bodily fluids (give and/or take) risks serious disease such as (but not limited to) HIV/AIDs, Hepatitis B & C.

 

**This article is NOT to encourage one to attempt turning or look for being turned. This article is strictly here as mix of information and personal speculation based on (minimum) of 7 years listening/reading the experiences, information and thoughts of others to explain the reality of turning. DO NOT start asking to be turned! DO NOT use this article outside of it’s intended purpose as described.**

 

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Medical Symptoms Possibly Confused as Vampirism

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Symptoms that may be confused as [real] Vampirism

SYMPTOMS CHECKLIST FOR OTHER DISEASES:

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” ~Carl Sagan

Vampirism is an extraordinary condition. The symptoms that one has when affected by it are rather extraordinary to find together. When you are a vampire and you go through your awakening the symptoms can be sometimes rather severe, and seem to be other illnesses. However those illnesses have a different set of symptoms than the ones that will be present, and if you are properly tested for this illnesses, you will come out negative.

Conversely, there are a few diseases out there that have symptoms that are easily confused for the symptoms of vampirism. Here are a few of them, and I’ll be adding more ailments as well as their symptoms later:

Dehydration

Symptoms of Dehydration

  • Dry mouth
  • Dry tongue
  • Fatigue
  • Dark colored urine
  • Infrequent urination
  • Reduced urine
  • Dry skin
  • Loose skin
  • Wrinkled skin
  • Rapid pulse
  • Rapid heartbeat
  • Rapid breathing
  • Muscle cramps
  • Muscle weakness
  • Sunken eyes
  • Light-headedness
  • Confusion
  • Loss of consciousness
  • From Wrong Diagnosis.

 

Rickets

Signs and symptoms of rickets include:

  • Bone pain or tenderness
  • dental problems
  • muscle weakness (rickety myopathy or “floppy baby syndrome”)
  • increased tendency for fractures (easily broken bones), especially greenstick fractures
  • Skeletal deformity
  • Cranial, spinal, and pelvic deformities
  • Growth disturbance
  • Hypocalcaemia (low level of calcium in the blood), and
  • Tetany (uncontrolled muscle spasms all over the body).
  • Craniotabes (soft skull)
  • Costochondral swelling (aka “rickety rosary” or “rachitic rosary”)
  • Harrison’s groove
  • Double malleoli sign due to metaphyseal hyperplasia [1] An X-ray or radiograph of an advanced sufferer from rickets tends to present in a classic way: bow legs (outward curve of long bone of the legs) and a deformed chest. Changes in the skull also occur causing a distinctive “square headed” appearance. These deformities persist into adult life if not treated.
  • Long-term consequences include permanent bends or disfiguration of the long bones, and a curved back.

Iron Deficiency Anemia

Mild iron deficiency anemia may not cause noticeable symptoms. If anemia is severe, symptoms may include:

  • Weakness, fatigue, or lack of stamina.
  • Shortness of breath during exercise.
  • Headache.
  • Difficulty concentrating.
  • Irritability.
  • Dizziness.
  • Pale skin.
  • Craving substances that are not food (pica). In particular, a craving for ice can be a sign of iron deficiency anemia.
  • Other signs may include:
    • Rapid heartbeat.
    • Brittle fingernails and toenails.
    • Cracked lips.
    • Smooth, sore tongue.

From WebMD.

Lead poisoning

The signs and symptoms of lead poisoning in children are nonspecific and may include:

  • Irritability
  • Loss of appetite
  • Weight loss
  • Sluggishness
  • Abdominal pain
  • Vomiting
  • Constipation
  • Unusual pallor (paleness) from anemia
  • Learning difficulties
  • Signs and symptoms in adultsAlthough children are primarily at risk, lead poisoning is also dangerous to adults. Signs and symptoms of lead poisoning in adults may include:
    • Pain, numbness or tingling of the extremities
    • Muscular weakness
    • Headache
    • Abdominal pain
    • Memory loss
    • Mood disorders
    • Reduced sperm count, abnormal spermAlso, lead poisoning can lead to pika*, the urge to eat inedible or unusual objects, such as more lead paint chips, or perhaps blood.
  • Taken from MayoClinic.com.*not taken from Mayo Clinic
  • Hypoglycemia
  • The first set of symptoms are called neuro-genic (or sympathetic) because they relate to the nervous system�s response to hypoglycemia. Patients may experience any of the following;
    • nervousness,
    • sweating,
    • intense hunger,
    • trembling,
    • weakness,
    • palpitations, and
    • often have trouble speaking.
  • If a person does not or cannot respond by eating something to raise blood glucose, the levels of glucose continue to drop. Somewhere in the 45 mg/dl range, most patients progress to neuro-glyco-penic ranges (the brain is not getting enough glucose). At this point, symptoms progress to confusion, drowsiness, changes in behavior, coma and seizure.
  • From MedicineNet’s Hypoglycemia Information.

Diabetes

  • People who think they might have diabetes must visit a physician for diagnosis. They might have SOME or NONE of the following symptoms:
  • Frequent urination
  • Excessive thirst
  • Unexplained weight loss
  • Extreme hunger
  • Sudden vision changes
  • Tingling or numbness in hands or feet
  • Feeling very tired much of the time
  • Very dry skin
  • Sores that are slow to heal
  • More infections than usual.
  • Nausea, vomiting, or stomach pains may accompany some of these symptoms in the abrupt onset of insulin-dependent diabetes, now called type 1 diabetes.
  • From The Centers of Disease Control website.

Lupus

  • Common signs of lupus are:
    • Red rash or color change on the face, often in the shape of a butterfly across the nose and cheeks
    • Painful or swollen joints
    • Unexplained fever
    • Chest pain with deep breathing
    • Swollen glands
    • Extreme fatigue (feeling tired all the time)
    • Unusual hair loss (mainly on the scalp)
    • Pale or purple fingers or toes from cold or stress
    • Sensitivity to the sun
    • Low blood count
    • Depression, trouble thinking, and/or memory problems
    • Other signs are mouth sores, unexplained seizures (convulsions), �seeing things� (hallucinations), repeated miscarriages, and unexplained kidney problems.
  • From Do I Have Lupus?

Porphyria

  • When heme production is faulty, porphyrins are overproduced and lend a reddish-purple color to urine.
  • The cutaneous porphyrias cause sun sensitivity, with blistering typically on the face, back of the hands, and other sun-exposed areas. The most common of these is porphyria cutanea tarda (PCT). Triggering factors are alcohol use, estrogen, iron, and liver disease, particularly hepatitis C.
  • The acute porphyrias typically cause abdominal pain and nausea. Some patients have personality changes and seizures at the outset. With time the illness can involve weakness in many different muscles.
  • Porphyria affects either the nervous system or the skin. When porphyria affects the nervous system, it can cause chest pain, abdominal pain, muscle cramps, weakness, hallucinations, seizures, purple-red-colored urine, or mental disorders like depression, anxiety, and paranoia. When porphyria affects the skin, blisters, itching, swelling, and sensitivity to the sun can result.
  • The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Porphyria includes the 29 symptoms listed below:
    • Urine color changes
    • Darkened urine
    • Nerve complication symptoms
      • Chest pain
      • Abdominal pain
      • Muscle cramps
      • Muscle weakness
      • Hallucinations
      • Seizures
      • Depression
      • Anxiety
      • Paranoia
      • High blood pressure
      • Rapid pulse
      • Fever
    • Skin complication symptoms
      • Skin blisters
      • Skin itching
      • Skin swelling
      • Sun sensitivity
      • Photosensitivity
      • Paresthesias
      • Hair growth abnormalities
      • Skin pigment changes
    • Gastrointestinal upset
      • Abdominal pain
      • Vomiting
      • Nausea
      • Constipation
  • The only way to be sure you have porphyria is through a series of tests that include:
    • Blood tests
    • Urine tests for porphyrins
    • Stool tests for porphyrins
  • From Wrong Diagnosis.

Xeroderma Pigmentosa

    • Symptoms:
    • A sunburn that does not heal following minimal sun exposure
    • Blistering following minimal sun exposure
    • Cutaneous telangiectasia [abnormal dilation of blood vessels near the surface of the skin]
    • Increasing irregular pigmentation of the skin
    • Crusting of the skin
    • Scaling of the skin
    • Oozing raw skin surface
    • Discomfort when exposed to bright light ( photophobia )
    • Neurologic changes are sometimes noted
  • From The University of Maryland Medical Center website.

Bipolar Disorder

  • Signs and symptoms of mania (or a manic episode) include:
    • Increased energy, activity, and restlessness
    • Excessively “high,” overly good, euphoric mood
    • Extreme irritability
    • Racing thoughts and talking very fast, jumping from one idea to another
    • Distractibility, can’t concentrate well
    • Little sleep needed
    • Unrealistic beliefs in one’s abilities and powers
    • Poor judgment
    • Spending sprees
    • A lasting period of behavior that is different from usual
    • Increased sexual drive
    • Abuse of drugs, particularly cocaine, alcohol, and sleeping medications
    • Provocative, intrusive, or aggressive behavior
    • Denial that anything is wrong
  • A manic episode is diagnosed if elevated mood occurs with three or more of the other symptoms most of the day, nearly every day, for 1 week or longer. If the mood is irritable, four additional symptoms must be present.
  • Signs and symptoms of depression (or a depressive episode) include:
    • Lasting sad, anxious, or empty mood
    • Feelings of hopelessness or pessimism
    • Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, or helplessness
    • Loss of interest or pleasure in activities once enjoyed, including sex
    • Decreased energy, a feeling of fatigue or of being “slowed down”
    • Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions
    • Restlessness or irritability
    • Sleeping too much, or can’t sleep
    • Change in appetite and/or unintended weight loss or gain
    • Chronic pain or other persistent bodily symptoms that are not caused by physical illness or injury
    • Thoughts of death or suicide, or suicide attempts
  • A depressive episode is diagnosed if five or more of these symptoms last most of the day, nearly every day, for a period of 2 weeks or longer.
  • A mild to moderate level of mania is called hypomania. Hypomania may feel good to the person who experiences it and may even be associated with good functioning and enhanced productivity. Thus even when family and friends learn to recognize the mood swings as possible bipolar disorder, the person may deny that anything is wrong. Without proper treatment, however, hypomania can become severe mania in some people or can switch into depression.
  • Sometimes, severe episodes of mania or depression include symptoms of psychosis (or psychotic symptoms). Common psychotic symptoms are hallucinations (hearing, seeing, or otherwise sensing the presence of things not actually there) and delusions (false, strongly held beliefs not influenced by logical reasoning or explained by a person’s usual cultural concepts). Psychotic symptoms in bipolar disorder tend to reflect the extreme mood state at the time. For example, delusions of grandiosity, such as believing one is the President or has special powers or wealth, may occur during mania; delusions of guilt or worthlessness, such as believing that one is ruined and penniless or has committed some terrible crime, may appear during depression. People with bipolar disorder who have these symptoms are sometimes incorrectly diagnosed as having schizophrenia, another severe mental illness.
  • From The National Institute of Mental Health website.

Schizotypal Personality Disorder

  • Symptoms of schizotypal personality disorder include:
    • Incorrect interpretation of events, including feeling that external events have personal meaning
    • Peculiar thinking, beliefs or behavior
    • Belief in special powers, such as telepathy
    • Perceptual alterations, in some cases bodily illusions, including “phantom pains” or other distortions in the sense of touch
    • Idiosyncratic speech, such as loose or vague patterns of speaking or tendency to go off on tangents
    • Suspicious or paranoid ideas
    • Flat emotions or inappropriate emotional responses
    • Lack of close friends outside of the immediate family
    • Persistent and excessive social anxiety that doesn’t abate with time
  • Schizotypal personality disorder can easily be confused with schizophrenia, which is characterized by intense psychosis, a severe mental state characterized by a loss of contact with reality. While schizotypal personalities may experience brief psychotic episodes with delusions or hallucinations, they are not as pronounced, frequent or intense as in schizophrenia.
  • Both disorders, along with schizoid personality disorder, belong to what’s generally referred to as the “schizophrenic spectrum.” Schizotypal personality falls in the middle of the spectrum, with schizoid personality disorder on the milder end and schizophrenia on the more severe end.
  • From MayoClinic.com.

And last, but by no means least:

Hypochondria

Symptoms of hypochondria include, but are not limited to:

  • If you think you have most, if not everything listed above.

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*7/30/15 – minor edits have been made and conditions added by myself, Amelia Nightside

 

Hypothyroidism

Hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid) is a condition in which your thyroid gland doesn’t produce enough of certain important hormones

It seldom causes symptoms in the early stages, but, over time, untreated hypothyroidism can cause a number of health problems, such as obesity, joint pain, infertility and heart disease. – http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypothyroidism/basics/definition/con-20021179

Symptoms include (but may not be limited to):

  • Fatigue
  • Increased sensitivity to cold
  • Constipation or IBS related symptoms
  • Acid Reflux
  • Dry, rough pale skin
  • Dry/Brittle fingernails and toenails
  • Unexplained Weight gain or increased difficulty losing weight
  • Puffy face
  • Hoarseness
  • Muscle weakness
  • Elevated blood cholesterol level
  • Muscle aches, tenderness and stiffness
  • Pain, stiffness or swelling in your joints
  • Heavier than normal or irregular menstrual periods
  • Thinning hair
  • Coarse, dry hair
  • Slowed heart rate
  • Depression or mood swings
  • Impaired memory
  • Irritability
  • Swelling of the thyroid gland (goiter)
  • Carpal tunnel syndrome

(Some symptoms presented in Infants, Children and Teens may vary as compared to symptoms in adults, please see the following link for more: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypothyroidism/basics/symptoms/con-20021179 )

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VampirIC Otherkin

Vampiric Otherkin

September 19, 2011 at 12:31pm

by Amelia Nightside

 

 

An attempt at explaining/understanding those who claim they are NOT vampires, yet have a need to take/exhchange energy. (energy density?)

I had a friend once who tried to explain that he identfied as otherkin (Daimon; sp?), and needed energy, but was not a vampire.

How could this be, considering my understanding at the time, was that vampires need to take in energy. well, apparently while many vampires need to take in energy, not all who need to take in energy are vampires.

His explanation was a little difficult for me to understand, but i think i had it at the time, and has been even harder to explain to others..

well, after tossing it around in my head, i think i’ve come up with something..

Many otherkin claim to be creatures that may not have ever existed in this plane (the physical or whatever you want to call it). So their kin-type’s “home”/natural environment isn’t like this one.

One way i’ve found to look at it, Water and air (or just water, like the ocean, but i’ll get to that).

Keep in mind that we (living creatures) ALL need energy, but it’s vampires (and others apparently) who need to actively take in energy (or engage in an energy exchange), just as we all, also need oxygen.

Also understand that this is under the conditions that the individual claiming to need energy, but not to be a vampire, is also NOT undergoing pseudo/temporary-vampirism (being drained to the point that they’re metaphysical body expresses vampiric traits/needs in order to return to it’s healthy state).

Water is denser than air, it also contains oxygen, but as a human being (or any sort of creature) who can only get oxygen through air, you can not expect to go into the more dense water, and be able to breathe properly (water [H2O] IS like half oxygen isn’t it?). and on the flip side, a fish, who lives in the more dense water, can’t be expected to survive if brought into the less dense air (though there is oxygen in air).

Water and air are both fluid, like energy. both contain oxygen, and sometimes both contain each other (water has bubbles, but moreso air can contain water in the form of vapor, anyway-).

On the other hand, think of the depths of the ocean, the further down you go (the darker it gets), the denser it gets, though there’s more oxygen {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_minimum_zone}.

Creatures who live on the bottom of the ocean can not live so well up near the surface or out in the air as well as they do down below and creatures who live up above, or at the surface, would be crushed and suffocate due to the density of the water/oxygen molecules in the deeper levels.

Those who need to take in/exchange energy (due to environment), but don’t naturally need to, are not like vampires, they’re more like fish, or those who might live in denser areas of our energetic ‘ocean’ . each section of ocean is like a separate “plane” of existence.

Those who come from a more energy-rich environment are more used to the higher amounts of energy that they need (the energy/astral/metaphysical plane is COMPLETELY made of such energy, as opposed to the plane we live in here/now, which is more physical than energetic, though there is still energy everywhere).

Because of where they come from, and what their -bodies- [may] need, they are forced to take in more here in order to live comfortably. when naturally, they don’t have to..